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I have a prescription for both eye glasses and contacts. I rarely wear my contacts because I see better wearing my eye glasses. I have minimal astigmatist (if that matters).
edit: The contacts I wear are Acuvue for astigmatism edit2: Also, I apologize for adding "ELI5" I thought I was in a different subreddit (Im kinda new).
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[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (17 children)
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You may be more astigmatic than you realize. Spherical vision defects — defects which are symmetric around the axis of the eye — can be corrected about as well with either glasses or contact lenses. The reason should be obvious: A contact lens has no orientation relative to the axis of the eye, so it works best when the correction also has no orientation about the axis. People who have simple myopia or simple hyperopia (near-sightedness or far-sightedness) get spherical lenses, either worn as eyeglasses or contacts.
Astigmatism, on the other hand, can't be corrected (fully, anyway) with a spherical lens. An astigmatism can only be corrected with a lens that focuses the light one way in the direction that's parallel to the floor and another way in the direction that's perpendicular to the floor. These kinds of lenses are called toric lenses (because they're a section of the outer surface of a torus, or doughnut-shape), and it should be obvious that they have to have a fixed orientation relative to your head. Since spherical contact lenses only have one axis of curvature, you can never get the same fidelity of correction out of a spherical contact lens that you can get out of a toric eyeglass lens.
There are toric contact lenses, but as a rule they tend to be pretty expensive (because they don't have the same economies of scale of spherical lenses) and they don't yield corrective results that are as good as myopic or hyperopic people get from spherical lenses. In order to work, a toric lens has to be centered on your cornea and correctly oriented relative to your eyeball, so there's a lot of blinking involved.
So long story short, even a "minimal" astigmatism is probably enough to make a dramatic difference between the correction you get from your spherical (or even toric, if you wear them) contacts and your toric eyeglasses.

[–]dannyunderpants[S] 9 points10 points  (10 children)
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I forgot to mention I already have toric contact lenses, sorry. Thanks for the explanation!

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)
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"Blink more" is salient advice, then, as well as "get used to it." Glasses work best for astigmatics like us because they're essentially bolted in place in front of our eyeballs, so they're always properly aligned to focus the light on our retinas. Toric contacts slide and wobble, so they're always going to be an approximation of correction at best.

[–]Steviebee123 4 points5 points  (2 children)
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Whilst we've got you here... An optician once told me that I have a double astigmatism in one eye, so it corrects itself. However, I've never really understood how this is possible. Can you explain it?

[–]kmmeerts 1 point2 points  (0 children)
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Maybe both your cornea and your actual lens have astigmatism, but they're in orthogonal directions, so they cancel out?

[–]Moonhowler22 0 points1 point  (0 children)
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You know the saying "Two wrongs don't make a right?"
Well, maybe, sometimes they do.
It could be your eyes are fucked up just the right way to unfuck-up themselves - built in contacts, if you will.
TL;DR Not the original guy, I have no idea. Made all that up.

[–]Foretrekker 5 points6 points  (2 children)
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What nobody else here is mentioning is that your glasses prescription and contact prescription can be quite different. The contact sits directly on the eye, and also has a tear layer that affects rx. The Dr. most likely used a conversion chart and gave you contacts based on what essentially amounts to a guess. Usually a contact lens follow up visit is included in your fitting fee and the Dr. will be able to check that they fit properly and adjust your rx if you can't see clearly. Go back to your Doctor.

[–]dannyunderpants[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)
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I went to 3 followup apointments becuase I thought I had gotten the wrong prescription for my contacts. She swapped out my pair for a new one with the same prescription hoping that I had gotten a defective pair. One thing she did NOT do that I am unsure if it is supposed to be done, is dilating my pupils.

[–]Foretrekker 0 points1 point  (0 children)
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You shouldn't need to dilate, but you should sit in front of the pheropter for an over-refraction.

[–]mstwizted 5 points6 points  (2 children)
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It helps to have really well fitted contact lenses, too. It took a few brands before I found one that worked well for me.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)
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This is very important. My experience is that contacts are extremely sensitive to fit.

[–]mstwizted 3 points4 points  (0 children)
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Toric lenses especially!!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)
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You sound like you know things.
Why is it I've experienced the opposite effect? I see much better with contacts. I'm very nearsighted and have always had the following complaints with my vision when wearing glasses:
  1. Distortion increases toward the edges of the the lenses, i.e. objects are not quite where they should be.
  2. I'm unsure of the term for this phenomenon, but if I'm looking at a sharp black line on top of a white surface, one side has an orangish glow while the opposite side has a blueish glow. This is also more pronounced toward the edges of my vision. This is actually somewhat annoying as someone who does a bit of graphic design.
I don't have either of these problems with contacts.

[–]seluropnek 4 points5 points  (2 children)
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Are you by any chance using polycarbonate lenses? What you're describing is called chromatic aberration, and it sucks. Depending on your eyes, you may want to try a high index plastic (good enough for most) or trivex lenses next time - they'll improve your vision quality and cut way back on what you're seeing. Polycarbonate are the thinnest, but they have the biggest degree of distortion and chromatic aberration by far. That said, you'll always have a little bit of it along your peripheral vision, it'll just be less noticeable with better lenses. You don't notice it with contacts because the lenses move with your eyes.
The wiki has good information about types of lenses, and it's worth bringing up next time you see your optician. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_lens#Lens_materials

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)
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They're probably polycarbonate lenses. At -7.00 power in both eyes, the plastic lenses available to me at the time of my last fitting were comically thick so I paid the premium for the thinnest polycarbonate lenses.
Your explanation for why I don't experience the aberration with contacts makes a lot of sense. I'm thankful my eyes tolerate continuous contact lens wear very well.

[–]seluropnek 4 points5 points  (0 children)
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Yeah, while high index plastic lenses may technically be a tiny bit thicker, no one will be able to tell when you're wearing them (no freaky magnified eyes) unless your eyes are at a certain level of "bad" - in which case trivex is usually the next option up to take care of that (and actually have even less chromatic aberration). Bit pricier but worth it off you don't want to wear contacts all the time. Obviously you want to avoid thee standard plastic lenses because those are the ones that make you look like a dork wearing coke bottles. Some people are more sensitive to the messed up vision from polycarbonate lenses than others, but the ones I had I never got used to after over a year of wearing them.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)
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Another question since you seem to know what you're talking about. Why is it that there aren't contact lenses that correct for low levels of astigmatism?

[–]smilesbot 0 points1 point  (0 children)
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They can't have my brand!

[–]blink_and_youre_dead 10 points11 points  (5 children)
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FWIW I see better with contacts than glasses. No astigmatism, acuevue 2. I just thought that was the norm.

[–]gunnapackofsammiches 4 points5 points  (0 children)
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I have astigmatisms and I saw better with my contacts than my glasses for a long time. Birth control has since made it difficult to wear contacts for long periods of time, which is annoying.

[–]gridease 3 points4 points  (3 children)
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Me, too. I have very slight astigmatism in my left eye. It seems to me like I see much better with contacts.

[–]shpongolian 3 points4 points  (2 children)
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Same, now that I've been wearing contacts for awhile I can't fucking stand eye glasses anymore. Not just for the various comfort and convenience reasons, but also because contacts make everything so much more clear. When I put on glasses everything looks relatively sharp but distorted as hell. I mean, obviously, because you're looking through bent glass. Every little movement I make bends everything, it makes me dizzy. And I have to see the rims in the edges of my vision constantly, and everything around the rims is still blurred. Plus if they're dirty, foggy or scuffed up at all that just makes shit even worse.
For awhile now I've been wearing contacts that only need to be taken out once a week. It's pretty awesome being able to just go to sleep and wake up with clear normal vision. It's like I don't even have an eye problem anymore, except that one night a week I take my contacts out before bed and put them back in the next morning.
...Seriously, fuck glasses. If my contacts were half as sharp as my glasses I'd still prefer them, fuck that shit.

[–]Erpp8 2 points3 points  (1 child)
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I've never understood why so many people wear glasses. I hated them and much prefer my contacts. People who wear glasses say they don't like contracts because they irritate their eyes or whatever, but glasses are so fucking irritating too. And I'd rather deal with sorta dry eyes and use eye drops that deal with fragile fucking pieces of plastic dangled in front of my face that only sorta works.

[–]applecherryfig 1 point2 points  (0 children)
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Creeping lack of ability to accommodate is why. I would need to use reading glasses if I wore contacts so I settled for no glasses and fuzzy distance or glasses that come off for reading.
I had to choose.

[–]urbster1 6 points7 points  (1 child)
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For acuity, sure, glasses will always be better. I tend to think of it more like the larger amount of lens material means it can be more precisely sculpted for more accurate refraction. A contact lens is an order of magnitude smaller so the optics aren't the same and are likely to be fuzzier. However, contacts are going to be better for your peripheral vision. Granted, if you're like most people who sit in front of screens most of the time, you may not use it much. But if you were to use a wider range of your vision and came to rely on it, you'd probably start to prefer contacts, I'd guess.

[–]CrowKaneII 1 point2 points  (0 children)
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I agree. I've been wearing contacts for years, glasses are just weird to me. Just depends on what you're used to, I guess.

[–]mouthpipettor 2 points3 points  (2 children)
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I hope someone answers you because I have the exact same experience. It's likely a soft plastic contact can only remedy astigmatism so much. I wonder if rigid contacts would offer better clarity for us?

[–]rethought 2 points3 points  (0 children)
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They do, but I wouldn't go back to hard lens.

[–]Mechanicalme 1 point2 points  (0 children)
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The difference between hard contacts and soft is so striking, I willingly bear the inconveniences to wear hard ones.
My astigmatism(s) - yes both eyes - are oblique. So for me, my vision is most improved by hard contacts, secondarily by thick glasses and third (last) choice soft contacts.

[–]mrkrabz1991 1 point2 points  (0 children)
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I the opposite. My vision is MUCH clearer and better with contacts over glasses.

[–]Mousi 1 point2 points  (0 children)
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For me, it's mostly my night vision that's terrible with contacts. I always get a glow around bright objects that obscures the things around them. This makes it very hard to read text that's illuminated at night, like signs and billboards.
This is also a problem with glasses, but less so.

[–]seamonkee 0 points1 point  (0 children)
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You'll need to get fitted better for your contacts.
I have fairly bad astigmatisms in both eyes and what makes the biggest difference for contacts is getting fitted properly for them. They shouldn't move around like crazy and yes, blinking should help when they may get misaligned on your eyes, but properly fitting contacts are a rare and beautiful treat. Not sliding around as much is the biggest difference, but also with the correct curvature to your eye makes your vision much, much better (anecdotally, in my experience).
I've been wearing contacts for 25 years. Started when I was 12 years old in gas permeable hard lenses (awful things). Eventually as the tech became better I switched to torics as well and still wear torics, but what's been the difference is a perfect fitting and I've only had 2 out of a dozen optometrists do that for me. Good luck. You'll really have to find an eye doc that really cares and an office that will reorder contacts until you find the best fit. Oddly enough, my best fitting pair of contacts came from an elderly doc in a walmart, even after going to independent eye doctors. So, expensive may not be better.


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